{"id":1982,"date":"2021-06-16T10:08:01","date_gmt":"2021-06-16T09:08:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/qika.org\/?post_type=lexo-post&p=1982"},"modified":"2021-06-16T10:08:02","modified_gmt":"2021-06-16T09:08:02","slug":"interviste-e-simone-de-beauvoir-seksi-i-dyte-25-vite-me-vone","status":"publish","type":"lexo-post","link":"https:\/\/qika.org\/en\/lexo-post\/interviste-e-simone-de-beauvoir-seksi-i-dyte-25-vite-me-vone\/","title":{"rendered":"Intervist\u00eb e Simone De Beauvoir: \u201cSeksi i Dyt\u00eb\u201d 25 vite m\u00eb von\u00eb"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Gerassi<\/strong>: Kan\u00eb kaluar rreth 25 vite q\u00eb kur \u201cSeksi i dyt\u00eb\u201d \u00ebsht\u00eb botuar. Shum\u00eb njer\u00ebz, sidomos n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb, e shohin librin si fillimin e l\u00ebvizjes feministe. A e shihni edhe ju si t\u00eb till\u00eb?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir<\/strong>:  Un\u00eb nuk e shoh si t\u00eb till\u00eb. L\u00ebvizja aktuale feministe e cila realisht filloi rreth pes\u00eb apo gjasht\u00eb vjet m\u00eb par\u00eb, nuk e njihte v\u00ebrtet librin tim. Pastaj, nd\u00ebrsa l\u00ebvizja rritej, disa nga udh\u00ebheq\u00ebset mor\u00ebn prej librit disa prej baz\u00ebs s\u00eb tyre teorike. Por Seksi i Dyt\u00eb n\u00eb asnj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb nuk nisi \/ solli l\u00ebvizjen feministe. Shumica e grave q\u00eb u b\u00ebn\u00eb shum\u00eb aktive n\u00eb l\u00ebvizje ishin shum\u00eb t\u00eb reja n\u00eb vitet 1949-50, kur doli libri, p\u00ebr t’u ndikuar nga ai. Ajo q\u00eb m\u00eb k\u00ebnaq, sigurisht, \u00ebsht\u00eb se ato e zbuluan at\u00eb m\u00eb von\u00eb. Sigurisht, disa nga grat\u00eb e moshuara – Betty Friedan, p\u00ebr shembull, e cila m\u00eb kushtoi Mistik\u00ebn Fem\u00ebrore – e kishin lexuar at\u00eb dhe ndoshta ishin ndikuar disi nga ai. Por t\u00eb tjer\u00ebt, aspak. Kate Millet, p\u00ebr shembull, nuk m\u00eb citon nj\u00eb her\u00eb t\u00eb vetme n\u00eb pun\u00ebn e saj. Ato mund t\u00eb jen\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb feministe p\u00ebr arsyet q\u00eb shpjegoj te Seksi i Dyt\u00eb; por ato i zbuluan ato arsye p\u00ebrmes p\u00ebrvojave t\u00eb tyre t\u00eb jet\u00ebsore, jo p\u00ebrmes librit tim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi:<\/strong> Keni th\u00ebn\u00eb q\u00eb vet\u00ebdija juaj feministe erdhi nga p\u00ebrvoja e shkrimit t\u00eb Seksit t\u00eb Dyt\u00eb. Si ndodhi kjo dhe si e shihni zhvillimin e l\u00ebvizjes pas botimit t\u00eb librit n\u00eb nj\u00eb trajektore personale?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> Duke shkruar Seksin e Dyt\u00eb p\u00ebr her\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb u b\u00ebra e vet\u00ebdijshme se un\u00eb vet\u00eb po b\u00ebja nj\u00eb jet\u00eb t\u00eb rreme, ose m\u00eb mir\u00eb t\u00eb them pa ditur po p\u00ebrfitoja nga kjo shoq\u00ebri e orientuar nga burrat. \u00c7far\u00eb kishte ndodhur \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb mjaft her\u00ebt n\u00eb jet\u00ebn time kisha pranuar vlerat mashkullore dhe po jetoja n\u00eb p\u00ebrputhje me to. Sigurisht, un\u00eb isha mjaft e suksesshme dhe kjo m\u00eb forcoi besimin se burri dhe gruaja mund t\u00eb ishin t\u00eb barabart\u00eb n\u00ebse gruaja d\u00ebshironte nj\u00eb barazi t\u00eb till\u00eb. Me fjal\u00eb t\u00eb tjera, un\u00eb isha nj\u00eb intelektuale. Pata fatin t\u00eb vija nga nj\u00eb klas\u00eb e shoq\u00ebris\u00eb si\u00e7 \u00ebsht\u00eb borgjezia e cila mund t\u00eb p\u00ebrballonte jo vet\u00ebm t\u00eb m\u00eb d\u00ebrgonte n\u00eb shkollat \u200b\u200bm\u00eb t\u00eb mira, por edhe t\u00eb m\u00eb lejonte t\u00eb luaja me ide. P\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb k\u00ebsaj un\u00eb arrita t\u00eb hyj n\u00eb bot\u00ebn e burrave pa shum\u00eb v\u00ebshtir\u00ebsi. Un\u00eb u tregova se mund t\u00eb diskutoja filozofin\u00eb, artin, let\u00ebrsin\u00eb, etj. n\u00eb “nivelin e burrave”. U sigurova q\u00eb t\u00eb mbaja n\u00eb vete gjith\u00e7ka q\u00eb e b\u00ebn t\u00eb ve\u00e7ant\u00eb gruan. P\u00ebr t\u00eb vazhduar m\u00eb tutje u p\u00ebrforcova nga suksesi im. P\u00ebrgjat\u00eb k\u00ebsaj pash\u00eb se mund t\u00eb b\u00ebja jetes\u00eb aq t\u00eb mir\u00eb sa \u00e7do intelektual burr\u00eb dhe se po merresha seriozisht si \u00e7do burr\u00eb. Duke qen\u00eb ajo q\u00eb isha, pash\u00eb se n\u00ebse doja mund t\u00eb udh\u00ebtoja vet\u00eb, mund t\u00eb ulesha n\u00eb kafene, t\u00eb shkruaja dhe t\u00eb respektohesha si \u00e7do shkrimtar burr\u00eb, etj. \u00c7do faz\u00eb ma forcoi ndjenj\u00ebn e pavar\u00ebsis\u00eb dhe barazis\u00eb. Prandaj, u b\u00eb shum\u00eb e leht\u00eb p\u00ebr mua t\u00eb harroja se nj\u00eb sekretaresh\u00eb nuk mund t\u00eb g\u00ebzonte n\u00eb asnj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjtat privilegje. Ajo nuk mund t\u00eb ulej n\u00eb nj\u00eb kafene dhe t\u00eb lexonte nj\u00eb lib\u00ebr pa u ngacmuar. Ajo ishte rrall\u00eb e ftuar n\u00eb festa p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb “mendjes s\u00eb saj”.  Ajo nuk mund t\u00eb merrte kredi ose t\u00eb kishte pron\u00eb t\u00eb saj\u00ebn. Un\u00eb mundesha. \u00c7far\u00eb ishte edhe m\u00eb e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme ishte se isha e prirur t\u00eb p\u00ebrbuzja llojin e gruas q\u00eb ndihej e paaft\u00eb financiarisht ose shpirt\u00ebrisht, p\u00ebr t\u2019i treguar pavar\u00ebsin\u00eb e saj nga burrat. N\u00eb fakt, mendoja se “n\u00ebse un\u00eb mundem, edhe ato munden.” Gjat\u00eb hulumtimit dhe shkrimit t\u00eb Seksit t\u00eb Dyt\u00eb, un\u00eb kuptova se privilegjet e mia ishin rezultat i largimit t\u00eb disa aspekteve thelb\u00ebsore t\u00eb t\u00eb qenit grua. N\u00ebse e kthejm\u00eb n\u00eb terma ekonomik t\u00eb klas\u00ebs, do ta kuptonit leht\u00eb: Un\u00eb isha b\u00ebr\u00eb nj\u00eb bashk\u00ebpun\u00ebtore e klas\u00ebs. N\u00eb fakt un\u00eb isha nj\u00eblloj edhe p\u00ebr sa i p\u00ebrket luft\u00ebs s\u00eb seksit. P\u00ebrmes Seksit t\u00eb Dyt\u00eb u b\u00ebra e vet\u00ebdijshme p\u00ebr luft\u00ebn q\u00eb ishte e nevojshme. E kuptova q\u00eb shumica d\u00ebrrmuese e grave thjesht nuk i kishin zgjedhjet q\u00eb un\u00eb kisha pasur, se grat\u00eb, n\u00eb fakt, p\u00ebrcaktohen dhe trajtohen si seksi i dyt\u00eb nga nj\u00eb shoq\u00ebri e orientuar nga burrat, struktura e s\u00eb cil\u00ebs do t\u00eb prishej e kolapsonte totalisht n\u00ebse ai orientim shkat\u00ebrrohet. Por tek njer\u00ebzit n\u00eb pozita t\u00eb larta ekonomike dhe politike, zhvillimi i rebelimit \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb i v\u00ebshtir\u00eb dhe i ngadalt\u00eb. S\u00eb pari, njer\u00ebzit e till\u00eb duhet t\u00eb b\u00ebhen t\u00eb vet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb dominim. M\u00eb pas ata duhet t\u00eb besojn\u00eb n\u00eb forc\u00ebn e tyre p\u00ebr ta ndryshuar at\u00eb. Ata q\u00eb p\u00ebrfitojn\u00eb nga “bashk\u00ebpunimi” i tyre duhet t\u00eb kuptojn\u00eb natyr\u00ebn e tradhtis\u00eb s\u00eb tyre. Dhe s\u00eb fundmi, ata q\u00eb d\u00ebmtohen m\u00eb s\u00eb shumti kur pozicionohen, dometh\u00ebn\u00eb grat\u00eb si un\u00eb q\u00eb kan\u00eb gdhendur nj\u00eb karrier\u00eb t\u00eb suksesshme, duhet t\u00eb jen\u00eb t\u00eb gatsh\u00ebm t\u00eb marrin rrezikun e pasiguris\u00eb \u2013 qoft\u00eb kjo thjesht tallje – n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb fitojn\u00eb respekt p\u00ebr veten. Ata duhet t\u00eb kuptojn\u00eb se motrat e tyre q\u00eb jan\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb shfryt\u00ebzuara do t\u00eb jen\u00eb t\u00eb fundit q\u00eb do mund t\u2019i bashkohen l\u00ebvizjes. Gruaja e nj\u00eb pun\u00ebtori, p\u00ebr shembull, \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb pak e lir\u00eb t\u00eb bashkohet me l\u00ebvizjen. Ajo e di q\u00eb burri i saj \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb i shfryt\u00ebzuar se shumica e lidereve feministe dhe se ai varet nga roli i saj si amvise dhe n\u00ebn\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb mbijetuar. Sidoqoft\u00eb, p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb k\u00ebtyre arsyeve, grat\u00eb nuk iu bashkuan l\u00ebvizjes. Kishte disa l\u00ebvizje shum\u00eb t\u00eb mira, shum\u00eb t\u00eb men\u00e7ura, t\u00eb cilat luftuan p\u00ebr pjes\u00ebmarrjen e grave n\u00eb politik\u00eb e n\u00eb qeveri. Por un\u00eb nuk mund t\u00eb bashkohesha me grupe t\u00eb tilla. Pastaj erdhi 1968 dhe gjith\u00e7ka ndryshoi. Un\u00eb e di q\u00eb disa ngjarje t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme kan\u00eb ndodhur edhe para k\u00ebsaj p.sh. libri i Betty Friedan i cili u botua para vitit \u201968. N\u00eb fakt, grat\u00eb amerikane ishin pjes\u00eb e l\u00ebvizjes edhe n\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb. Ato, m\u00eb shum\u00eb se \u00e7do grua tjet\u00ebr, p\u00ebr arsye t\u00eb qarta ishin m\u00eb t\u00eb vet\u00ebdijshme p\u00ebr kontradiktat midis teknologjis\u00eb s\u00eb re dhe rolit konservator t\u00eb mbajtjes s\u00eb grave n\u00eb kuzhin\u00eb. Nd\u00ebrsa teknologjia zgjerohet – teknologjia si fuqi e trurit dhe jo e forc\u00ebs fizike – arsyetimi mashkullor se grat\u00eb jan\u00eb seksi i dob\u00ebt dhe k\u00ebshtu duhet t\u00eb luajn\u00eb nj\u00eb rol dyt\u00ebsor logjikisht nuk mund t\u00eb ekzistoj\u00eb m\u00eb. Meqen\u00ebse inovacionet teknologjike ishin kaq t\u00eb p\u00ebrhapura n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb, grat\u00eb amerikane nuk mund t’i shp\u00ebtonin kontradiktave. K\u00ebshtu ishte normale q\u00eb l\u00ebvizja feministe mori shtys\u00ebn e saj m\u00eb t\u00eb madhe n\u00eb zemr\u00ebn e kapitalizmit imperialist, edhe n\u00ebse kjo shtys\u00eb ishte ekonomike, dometh\u00ebn\u00eb p\u00ebrmes k\u00ebrkes\u00ebs p\u00ebr pag\u00eb t\u00eb barabart\u00eb t\u00eb pun\u00ebs s\u00eb barabart\u00eb. Zhvillimi i vet\u00ebdijes s\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb feministe ishte p\u00ebrbrenda vet\u00eb l\u00ebvizjes anti-imperialiste. Qoft\u00eb n\u00eb l\u00ebvizjen kund\u00ebr Luft\u00ebs s\u00eb Vietnamit n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb, qoft\u00eb pas rebelimit t\u00eb vitit 1968 n\u00eb Franc\u00eb dhe n\u00eb vendet e tjera t\u00eb Evrop\u00ebs, grat\u00eb filluan t\u00eb kuptojn\u00eb fuqin\u00eb e tyre. Duke e kuptuar q\u00eb kapitalizmi \u00e7on domosdoshm\u00ebrisht n\u00eb dominimin mbi popujt e varf\u00ebr n\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb bot\u00ebn, masat e grave filluan t’i bashkohen luft\u00ebs s\u00eb klasave – edhe n\u00ebse nuk e pranonin vet\u00eb termin “luft\u00eb e klasave”. Ato u b\u00ebn\u00eb aktiviste. Ato u bashkuan me marshimet, demonstratat, fushatat, grupet ilegale, militant\u00ebt e s\u00eb majt\u00ebs. Ato luftuan, ashtu si \u00e7do njeri, p\u00ebr nj\u00eb t\u00eb ardhme jo-shfryt\u00ebzuese, jo-tjet\u00ebrsuese. Por \u00e7far\u00eb ndodhi? N\u00eb grupet ose organizatat ku ato u bashkuan, zbuluan se ishin po aq \u201cseks i dyt\u00eb\u201d sa n\u00eb shoq\u00ebrin\u00eb q\u00eb d\u00ebshironin t\u00eb p\u00ebrmbysnin. K\u00ebtu n\u00eb Franc\u00eb, dhe mund t\u00eb them edhe n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb, ato zbuluan se udh\u00ebheq\u00ebsit ishin gjithmon\u00eb burrat. Grat\u00eb u b\u00ebn\u00eb daktilografe e kafe-b\u00ebr\u00ebse t\u00eb k\u00ebtyre grupeve pseudo-revolucionare. N\u00eb fakt nuk duhet t\u00eb them pseudo. Shum\u00eb prej aktivist\u00ebve burra t\u00eb l\u00ebvizjes ishin revolucionar\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00ebfillt\u00eb. Por t\u00eb st\u00ebrvitur, t\u00eb rritur, t\u00eb formuar n\u00eb nj\u00eb shoq\u00ebri t\u00eb orientuar nga burrat, k\u00ebta revolucionar\u00eb soll\u00ebn at\u00eb orientim edhe n\u00eb l\u00ebvizje. Kuptohet, njer\u00ebz t\u00eb till\u00eb nuk do t\u00eb heqin dor\u00eb vullnetarisht nga ky orientim, ashtu si klasa borgjeze nuk do t\u00eb heq\u00eb dor\u00eb vullnetarisht nga fuqia e saj. Pra, ashtu si\u00e7 u takon t\u00eb varf\u00ebrve q\u00eb t\u00eb marrin pushtetin nga t\u00eb pasurit, ashtu u takon grave q\u00eb t\u00eb marrin pushtetin nga burrat. Dhe kjo nuk do t\u00eb thot\u00eb q\u00eb burrat tani t\u00eb jen\u00eb t\u00eb dominuar. Do t\u00eb thot\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb vendoset barazi. Nd\u00ebrsa socializmi, socializmi i v\u00ebrtet\u00eb, vendos barazin\u00eb ekonomike mes t\u00eb gjith\u00eb njer\u00ebzve, l\u00ebvizja feministe m\u00ebsoi se duhej t\u00eb vendoste barazin\u00eb midis gjinive duke marr\u00eb pushtetin nga klasa sunduese brenda l\u00ebvizjes, dometh\u00ebn\u00eb nga burrat. P\u00ebr ta th\u00ebn\u00eb ndryshe: sapo hyn\u00eb n\u00eb luft\u00ebn e klasave, grat\u00eb e kuptuan q\u00eb lufta e klasave nuk e eliminonte luft\u00ebn e seksit. N\u00eb at\u00eb moment un\u00eb vet\u00eb u b\u00ebra e vet\u00ebdijshme p\u00ebr at\u00eb q\u00eb sapo thash\u00eb. Para k\u00ebsaj un\u00eb isha e bindur se barazia e gjinive mund t\u00eb jet\u00eb e mundur vet\u00ebm kur shkat\u00ebrrohet kapitalizmi, prandaj – dhe mashtrimi q\u00ebndron te kjo “prandaj” – ne s\u00eb pari duhet t\u00eb luftojm\u00eb dallimet klasore. \u00cbsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb q\u00eb barazia e gjinive \u00ebsht\u00eb e pamundur n\u00eb kapitaliz\u00ebm. N\u00ebse t\u00eb gjitha grat\u00eb punojn\u00eb sa burrat, \u00e7far\u00eb do t\u00eb ndodh\u00eb me ato institucione nga t\u00eb cilat varet kapitalizmi, institucione t\u00eb tilla si kisha, martesa, ushtria dhe miliona fabrika, dyqane, etj. t\u00eb cilat varen nga puna me orar t\u00eb pjessh\u00ebm dhe fuqia pun\u00ebtore e paguar lir\u00eb e pak? Por nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb q\u00eb nj\u00eb revolucion socialist vendos domosdoshm\u00ebrisht barazi gjinore. Shikoni Rusin\u00eb Sovjetike ose \u00c7ekosllovakin\u00eb, ku (edhe n\u00ebse jemi t\u00eb gatsh\u00ebm t’i quajm\u00eb ato vende “socialiste” edhe pse jo nga un\u00eb) ka nj\u00eb paqart\u00ebsi t\u00eb thell\u00eb midis emancipimit t\u00eb proletariatit dhe emancipimit t\u00eb grave. Disi, proletariati gjithmon\u00eb del t\u00eb jet\u00eb i p\u00ebrb\u00ebr\u00eb nga burrat. Vlerat patriarkale kan\u00eb mbetur t\u00eb paprekura si atje si k\u00ebtu. Dhe kjo – kjo vet\u00ebdije mes grave q\u00eb lufta e klasave nuk mish\u00ebron luft\u00ebn e seksit – \u00ebsht\u00eb risia. Megjithat\u00eb, shumica e grave n\u00eb l\u00ebvizje tashm\u00eb e dinin k\u00ebt\u00eb. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb arritja m\u00eb e madhe e l\u00ebvizjes feministe. \u00cbsht\u00eb nj\u00eb arritje q\u00eb do t\u00eb ndryshoj\u00eb historin\u00eb n\u00eb vitet q\u00eb vijn\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi: <\/strong> Por nj\u00eb vet\u00ebdije e till\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb e kufizuar vet\u00ebm tek grat\u00eb q\u00eb jan\u00eb pjes\u00eb e s\u00eb majt\u00ebs, dometh\u00ebn\u00eb grat\u00eb q\u00eb jan\u00eb t\u00eb p\u00ebrkushtuara n\u00eb ristrukturimin e t\u00eb gjith\u00eb shoq\u00ebris\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir<\/strong>: Natyrisht, kjo vjen si pasoj\u00eb e pjes\u00ebs tjet\u00ebr q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb konservatore, dometh\u00ebn\u00eb ata duan t\u00eb ruajn\u00eb at\u00eb q\u00eb ka qen\u00eb ose at\u00eb q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb. Grat\u00eb e s\u00eb djatht\u00ebs nuk duan revolucion. Ato jan\u00eb n\u00ebna e gra t\u00eb p\u00ebrkushtuara ndaj burrave t\u00eb tyre. Edhe n\u00ebse ato jan\u00eb rebele, thjesht e b\u00ebjn\u00eb sepse duan nj\u00eb cop\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb madhe t\u00eb \u201ctort\u00ebs\u201d. Ato duan t\u00eb fitojn\u00eb m\u00eb shum\u00eb, t\u00eb zgjedhin m\u00eb shum\u00eb gra n\u00eb parlament, t\u00eb shohin nj\u00eb grua presidente. Ato besojn\u00eb thelb\u00ebsisht n\u00eb pabarazi, problemi k\u00ebtu \u00ebsht\u00eb se ato duan t\u00eb jen\u00eb n\u00eb krye t\u00eb k\u00ebsaj pabarazie e jo n\u00eb fund. Por ato p\u00ebrshtaten mir\u00eb n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb sistem ashtu si\u00e7 \u00ebsht\u00eb, ose do p\u00ebrshtateshin edhe n\u00ebse ky sistem ndryshon pak sa p\u00ebr t\u00eb p\u00ebrmbushur k\u00ebrkesa t\u00eb tilla. Sigurisht q\u00eb kapitalizmi mund t\u00eb lejoj\u00eb grat\u00eb t\u00eb bashkohen n\u00eb ushtri apo n\u00eb polici. Sigurisht kapitalizmi \u00ebsht\u00eb mjaftuesh\u00ebm inteligjent sa t\u00eb lejoj\u00eb m\u00eb shum\u00eb gra t\u00eb jen\u00eb pjes\u00eb e qeveris\u00eb. Pseudosocializmi sigurisht q\u00eb mund t\u00eb lejoj\u00eb nj\u00eb grua t\u00eb b\u00ebhet sekretare e p\u00ebrgjithshme e partis\u00eb s\u00eb saj. K\u00ebto jan\u00eb vet\u00ebm reforma si sigurimet shoq\u00ebrore ose pushimet me pages\u00eb. A e ndryshoi institucionalizimi i pushimeve t\u00eb paguara pabarazin\u00eb e kapitalizmit? A e ndryshoi e drejta e grave p\u00ebr t\u00eb punuar n\u00eb fabrika me pag\u00eb t\u00eb barabart\u00eb me burrat orientimin burr\u00ebror t\u00eb shoq\u00ebris\u00eb \u00c7eke? Revolucionar do ishte ndryshimi i gjith\u00eb sistemit t\u00eb vlerave t\u00eb shoq\u00ebris\u00eb dhe shkat\u00ebrrimi i konceptit s\u00eb am\u00ebsis\u00eb. Nj\u00eb feministe, pavar\u00ebsisht n\u00ebse e quan veten t\u00eb majt\u00eb apo jo, nga p\u00ebrkufizimi \u00ebsht\u00eb e majt\u00eb. Ajo po lufton p\u00ebr barazi totale, p\u00ebr t\u00eb drejt\u00ebn q\u00eb t\u00eb jet\u00eb po aq e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme, aq relevante, sa \u00e7do burr\u00eb. Prandaj, e mish\u00ebruar n\u00eb revolt\u00ebn e saj p\u00ebr barazi gjinore \u00ebsht\u00eb k\u00ebrkesa p\u00ebr barazi klasore. N\u00eb nj\u00eb shoq\u00ebri ku burri mund t\u00eb jet\u00eb \u201cn\u00ebn\u00eb\u201d, ku, p\u00ebr t\u00eb shtyr\u00eb argumentin mbi vlerat, e ashtuquajtura “intuit\u00eb fem\u00ebrore” \u00ebsht\u00eb po aq e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme sa “njohuria mashkullore”. P\u00ebr ta th\u00ebn\u00eb n\u00eb gjuh\u00ebn absurd t\u00eb s\u00eb sotmes – ku t\u00eb jesh i\/e kujdesshme ose i\/ e but\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb mir\u00eb sesa t\u00eb jesh i\/ e vrazhd\u00eb dhe i\/ e ashp\u00ebr, me fjal\u00eb t\u00eb tjera, n\u00eb nj\u00eb shoq\u00ebri ku p\u00ebrvojat e secilit person jan\u00eb ekuivalente me t\u00eb tjetrit, automatikisht ke vendosur barazi, q\u00eb n\u00ebnkupton barazi ekonomike, politike dhe shum\u00eb m\u00eb tep\u00ebr. K\u00ebshtu, lufta e seksit mish\u00ebron luft\u00ebn e klasave, por lufta e klas\u00ebs nuk mish\u00ebron luft\u00ebn e seksit. Pra, feminist\u00ebt jan\u00eb t\u00eb majt\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00ebfillt\u00eb. N\u00eb fakt, ata jan\u00eb n\u00eb t\u00eb majt\u00eb t\u00eb asaj q\u00eb ne tani tradicionalisht e quajm\u00eb t\u00eb majt\u00eb politike.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi:<\/strong> Por nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb, duke zhvilluar luft\u00ebn e seksit vet\u00ebm brenda s\u00eb majt\u00ebs – pasi, si\u00e7 e keni th\u00ebn\u00eb, lufta gjinore, t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn p\u00ebrkoh\u00ebsisht, \u00ebsht\u00eb e par\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme brenda sektor\u00ebve t\u00eb tjer\u00eb politik\u00eb – a nuk jan\u00eb feminist\u00ebt q\u00eb dob\u00ebsojn\u00eb t\u00eb majt\u00ebn, duke forcuar ata q\u00eb shfryt\u00ebzojn\u00eb grat\u00eb dhe t\u00eb varfrit?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> Jo, dhe n\u00eb planin afatgjat\u00eb vet\u00ebm mund t\u00eb forcojn\u00eb t\u00eb majt\u00ebn. N\u00eb fakt, duke u ballafaquar si t\u00eb majt\u00eb, dometh\u00ebn\u00eb, si kund\u00ebrshtar\u00eb t\u00eb shfryt\u00ebzimit, burrat e majt\u00eb jan\u00eb t\u00eb detyruar t\u00eb fillojn\u00eb t\u00eb filtrojn\u00eb veten. Gjithnj\u00eb e m\u00eb shum\u00eb grupet ndihen t\u00eb detyruar t\u00eb mbajn\u00eb n\u00ebn kontroll drejtuesit e tyre q\u00eb jan\u00eb burra \u201cmacho\u201d. Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb progres. N\u00eb gazet\u00ebn ton\u00eb, Lib\u00e9ration, shumica e orientuar drejt burrave u ndie e detyruar t\u00eb linte nj\u00eb grua t\u00eb b\u00ebhej drejtoresh\u00eb e gazet\u00ebs. Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb progres. Burrat e s\u00eb majt\u00ebs kan\u00eb filluar t\u00eb ken\u00eb kujdes me gjuh\u00ebn e tyre, kan\u00eb filluar…<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi:<\/strong> Por a \u00ebsht\u00eb kjo e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb? Un\u00eb kam m\u00ebsuar p\u00ebr shembull t\u00eb mos e p\u00ebrdor kurr\u00eb fjal\u00ebn “chick”, t’i kushtoj\u00eb v\u00ebmendje grave n\u00eb \u00e7do diskutim grupor, t\u00eb laj\u00eb en\u00ebt, t\u00eb pastroj\u00eb sht\u00ebpin\u00eb, t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb pazaret. Por a jan\u00eb mendimet e mia m\u00eb pak seksiste? A i kam hedhur posht\u00eb vlerat mashkullore?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> Do t\u00eb thuash brenda teje? T\u00eb them hapur, kujt i intereson? Mendoni p\u00ebr nj\u00eb minut\u00eb. Ju e njihni nj\u00eb racist. E dini q\u00eb ai \u00ebsht\u00eb racist sepse e keni njohur gjat\u00eb gjith\u00eb jet\u00ebs s\u00eb tij. Por tani ai kurr\u00eb nuk thot\u00eb “nigger”. Ai d\u00ebgjon t\u00eb gjitha ankesat e burrave t\u00eb zi dhe p\u00ebrpiqet t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00ebn p\u00ebr t’u marr\u00eb me to. Ai b\u00ebn\u00eb gjith\u00e7ka p\u00ebr t\u00eb qortuar racist\u00ebt. Ai k\u00ebmb\u00ebngul q\u00eb f\u00ebmij\u00ebve t\u00eb zi t’u jepet nj\u00eb arsimim mbi mesataren p\u00ebr t\u00eb kompensuar vitet e tyre pa arsimim. Ai jep referenca t\u00eb mira p\u00ebr burra t\u00eb zinj kur ata aplikojn\u00eb p\u00ebr kredi. Ai mb\u00ebshtet kandidat\u00ebt zezak\u00eb n\u00eb qytetin e tij me para ashtu edhe me vot\u00eb. A mendoni se zezak\u00ebt merakosen n\u00ebse ai \u00ebsht\u00eb ende racist “n\u00eb shpirtin e tij”? Nj\u00eb pjes\u00eb e madhe e shfryt\u00ebzimit objektiv \u00ebsht\u00eb zakonor. N\u00ebse mund t\u00eb kontrolloni zakonet tuaja, b\u00ebjeni “t\u00eb natyrshme” t\u00eb keni kund\u00ebrveprime. N\u00ebse lani en\u00ebt, pastroni sht\u00ebpin\u00eb dhe pranoni se nuk ndiheni m\u00eb pak “burr\u00eb” kur i b\u00ebni, ju po ndihmoni n\u00eb krijimin e zakoneve t\u00eb reja. Kur disa breza ndiejn\u00eb se n\u00eb \u00e7do koh\u00eb duhet t\u00eb duken jo-racist\u00eb, brezi i tret\u00eb do t\u00eb jet\u00eb jo-racist. Prandaj luani si jo-seksist dhe vazhdoni t\u00eb luani si t\u00eb till\u00eb. Mendojeni t\u00ebr\u00eb procesin si nj\u00eb loj\u00eb. N\u00eb mendimet tuaja private, vazhdoni e mendoni se jeni m\u00eb superior se grat\u00eb. Por p\u00ebr sa koh\u00eb q\u00eb ju luani bindsh\u00ebm – vazhdoni t\u00eb lani en\u00ebt, t\u00eb b\u00ebni pazaret, t\u00eb pastroni sht\u00ebpin\u00eb, t\u00eb kujdeseni p\u00ebr f\u00ebmij\u00ebt – krijoni precedent\u00eb, ve\u00e7an\u00ebrisht n\u00ebse jeni burra si ju q\u00eb keni nj\u00eb q\u00ebndrim \u201cmacho\u201d. Problemi \u00ebsht\u00eb se un\u00eb nuk e besoj se v\u00ebrtet\u00eb ju do i b\u00ebni. Un\u00eb nuk mendoj se ju me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb do vazhdoni t\u00eb b\u00ebni at\u00eb q\u00eb thoni. \u00cbsht\u00eb nj\u00eb gj\u00eb t\u00eb lani en\u00ebt; \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr gj\u00eb t\u00eb ndryshoni pelenat dit\u00eb p\u00ebr dit\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi: <\/strong>Por un\u00eb nuk kam f\u00ebmij\u00eb…<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir: <\/strong>Dhe pse nuk keni? Sepse keni vendosur t\u00eb mos keni. A mendoni se disa nga n\u00ebnat q\u00eb kan\u00eb f\u00ebmij\u00eb kan\u00eb vendosur vet\u00eb p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb? Apo jan\u00eb detyruar t\u00eb ken\u00eb? Apo t\u00eb themi m\u00eb mir\u00eb jan\u00eb rritur n\u00eb at\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb mendojn\u00eb se t\u00eb kesh f\u00ebmij\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb krejt\u00ebsisht natyrore dhe fem\u00ebrore, k\u00ebshtu duke i b\u00ebr\u00eb t\u00eb mendojn\u00eb se ato kan\u00eb vendosur vet\u00eb? Kush e ka b\u00ebr\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb vendim t\u00eb paevituesh\u00ebm? K\u00ebto jan\u00eb vlerat q\u00eb duhen t\u00eb ndryshohen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi: <\/strong>N\u00eb rregull. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb arsyeja pse un\u00eb e kuptoj q\u00eb shum\u00eb feministe kan\u00eb insistuar t\u00eb jen\u00eb separatiste. Por p\u00ebr sa i p\u00ebrket revolucionit, a mund t\u00eb fitojm\u00eb n\u00ebse ndahemi n\u00eb grupe krejt\u00ebsisht t\u00eb ve\u00e7anta? A mundet l\u00ebvizja feministe t\u00eb arrij\u00eb q\u00ebllimet e saj duke p\u00ebrjashtuar burrat nga lufta e saj? Pjesa dominuese e l\u00ebvizjes t\u00eb grave sot, k\u00ebtu n\u00eb Franc\u00eb t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn, poashtu edhe n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb, jan\u00eb separatiste.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> Ne duhet t\u00eb hetojm\u00eb pse ato jan\u00eb separatiste. Nuk mund t\u00eb flas p\u00ebr Amerik\u00ebn, por k\u00ebtu n\u00eb Franc\u00eb ka shum\u00eb grupe, grupe t\u00eb nd\u00ebrgjegjes, t\u00eb cilat p\u00ebrjashtojn\u00eb burrat sepse e kan\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme t\u00eb ri-zbulojn\u00eb identitetin e tyre si gra p\u00ebr ta kuptuar veten si gra. Ato mund ta b\u00ebjn\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb vet\u00ebm duke folur mes tyre, duke i th\u00ebn\u00eb nj\u00ebra-tjetr\u00ebs gj\u00ebra q\u00eb kurr\u00eb nuk do t\u00eb guxonin t\u2019i thonin para burrave, t\u00eb dashurve, v\u00ebllez\u00ebrve, baballar\u00ebve ose ndonj\u00eb fuqie tjet\u00ebr mashkullore. Nevoja e tyre p\u00ebr t\u00eb folur me intensitetin dhe ndershm\u00ebrin\u00eb e k\u00ebrkuar mund t\u00eb p\u00ebrmbushet vet\u00ebm n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb. Ato kan\u00eb arritur t\u00eb komunikojn\u00eb me nj\u00eb thell\u00ebsi, q\u00eb kur isha 25 vje\u00e7 kurr\u00eb nuk e kam menduar si t\u00eb mundur apo t\u00eb imagjinueshme. Problemet e grave nuk u diskutuan kurr\u00eb edhe kur isha me mikeshat m\u00eb t\u00eb af\u00ebrta. P\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb k\u00ebtyre grupeve t\u00eb nd\u00ebrgjegjes dhe p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb ashp\u00ebrsis\u00eb s\u00eb d\u00ebshir\u00ebs p\u00ebr t’u p\u00ebrballur me problemet e grave brenda k\u00ebtyre grupeve, miq\u00ebsi t\u00eb v\u00ebrteta jan\u00eb zhvilluar midis grave. Dua t\u00eb them, n\u00eb t\u00eb kaluar\u00ebn, n\u00eb rinin\u00eb time, deri para pak koh\u00ebsh, grat\u00eb nuk ishin kurr\u00eb kaq miq\u00ebsore me grat\u00eb e tjera. Ato e shihnin nj\u00ebra-tjetr\u00ebn si rivale e armike ose t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn si konkurrente. Tani, si rezultat kryesisht i k\u00ebtyre grupeve t\u00eb nd\u00ebrgjegjes, jo vet\u00ebm q\u00eb grat\u00eb jan\u00eb t\u00eb afta t\u00eb jen\u00eb shoqe, por ato kan\u00eb m\u00ebsuar t\u00eb jen\u00eb t\u00eb ngrohta, t\u00eb hapura, thell\u00ebsisht t\u00eb buta me nj\u00ebra-tjetr\u00ebn: ata po e b\u00ebjn\u00eb mot\u00ebrzimin realitet – dhe pa e bazuar at\u00eb marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie vet\u00ebm n\u00eb seksualitet. Sigurisht, ka shum\u00eb beteja, nd\u00ebr to beteja t\u00eb rrepta feministe e me ndikim shoq\u00ebror n\u00eb t\u00eb cilat grat\u00eb presin q\u00eb burrat t\u00eb bashkohen. N\u00eb shum\u00eb prej tyre edhe jan\u00eb bashkuar. Un\u00eb jam duke menduar, p\u00ebr shembull, luft\u00ebn p\u00ebr legalizimin e abortit. Kur organizuam protest\u00ebn e par\u00eb masive n\u00eb lidhje me k\u00ebt\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtje, tre ose kat\u00ebr vjet m\u00eb par\u00eb, m\u00eb kujtohet mir\u00eb numri i madh i burrave t\u00eb pranish\u00ebm. Kjo nuk do t\u00eb thot\u00eb q\u00eb ata nuk ishin seksist\u00eb: t\u00eb \u00e7rr\u00ebnjos\u00ebsh at\u00eb q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb ngulitur n\u00eb modelin e sjelljes dhe sistemin e vlerave t\u00eb dikujt nga dit\u00ebt e hershme t\u00eb f\u00ebmij\u00ebris\u00eb k\u00ebrkon vite, dekada. Por k\u00ebta ishin burra q\u00eb t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn ishin t\u00eb vet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm p\u00ebr seksizmin n\u00eb shoq\u00ebri dhe mor\u00ebn nj\u00eb q\u00ebndrim politik kund\u00ebr tij. N\u00eb raste t\u00eb tilla burrat jan\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00ebpritur e t\u00eb inkurajuar t\u2019i bashkohen luft\u00ebs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi<\/strong>: Por ka edhe shum\u00eb grupe, t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn k\u00ebtu n\u00eb Franc\u00eb, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt shpallin me krenari separatizmin e tyre dhe e p\u00ebrcaktojn\u00eb luft\u00ebn e tyre si t\u00ebr\u00ebsisht lezbike.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> Le t\u00eb jemi t\u00eb qart\u00eb. Brenda L\u00c7G [L\u00ebvizja \u00c7lirimtare e Grave] ka shum\u00eb grupe t\u00eb cilat e quajn\u00eb veten lezbike. Shum\u00eb nga k\u00ebto gra, n\u00eb saj\u00eb t\u00eb L\u00c7G dhe grupeve t\u00eb nd\u00ebrgjegjes, tani jan\u00eb n\u00eb gjendje t\u00eb thon\u00eb haptas se jan\u00eb lezbike dhe kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb e mrekullueshme. Dikur nuk ishte k\u00ebshtu. Ka gra t\u00eb tjera q\u00eb nga angazhimi politik jan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb lezbike: dometh\u00ebn\u00eb, ato mendojn\u00eb se \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb akt politik t\u00eb jesh lezbike, kjo pak a shum\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb ekuivalente me p\u00ebrpjekjen feministe t\u00eb grave t\u00eb zeza p\u00ebrbrenda luft\u00ebs racore. \u00cbsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb q\u00eb k\u00ebto gra priren t\u00eb jen\u00eb m\u00eb dogmatike n\u00eb lidhje me p\u00ebrjashtimin e burrave nga lufta e tyre. Por kjo nuk do t\u00eb thot\u00eb se ato i injorojn\u00eb betejat e shumta q\u00eb po b\u00ebhen kudo kund\u00ebr shtypjes. P\u00ebr shembull, kur Pierre Overney, organizatori i ri Maoist, u vra nga nj\u00eb polic i fabrik\u00ebs Renault p\u00ebr mosn\u00ebnshtrim gjat\u00eb nj\u00eb demonstrate dhe e gjith\u00eb e majta b\u00ebri nj\u00eb marshim proteste n\u00ebp\u00ebr Paris, t\u00eb gjith\u00eb k\u00ebto t\u00eb ashtuquajtura separatiste lezbike radikale u bashkuan me demonstrat\u00ebn dhe \u00e7uan lule tek varri i tij. Kjo, nga ana tjet\u00ebr, nuk do t\u00eb thoshte se ato shpreh\u00ebn solidaritetin e tyre me Overney, por q\u00eb ato u identifikuan me protest\u00ebn kund\u00ebr shtetit i cili shfryt\u00ebzon dhe abuzon njer\u00ebzit – gra dhe burra.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi:<\/strong> Nj\u00eb nga pasojat e \u00e7lirimit t\u00eb grave, sipas sondazheve t\u00eb fundit t\u00eb kryera n\u00eb kampuset amerikane, \u00ebsht\u00eb se paaft\u00ebsia e burrave \u00ebsht\u00eb rritur shum\u00eb, ve\u00e7an\u00ebrisht midis atyre t\u00eb rinjve q\u00eb p\u00ebrpiqen t\u00eb p\u00ebrballen me seksizmin e tyre…<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> \u00cbsht\u00eb faji i tyre. Ata p\u00ebrpiqen t\u00eb luajn\u00eb role …<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi:<\/strong> Por, tani ata jan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb t\u00eb vet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm se dikur luanin role, t\u00eb vet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm q\u00eb ka qen\u00eb e leht\u00eb t\u00eb ishe \u201cmacho\u201d dhe t\u00eb pretendoje se ishe tip egoist e i fuqish\u00ebm. Ata tani e kuptojn\u00eb se shpesh mendonin se duhej t\u00eb kryenin marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie ose t\u00eb tentonin t\u00eb joshnin gruan sepse kjo ishte ajo q\u00eb pritej nga ta, nd\u00ebrsa tani…<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir<\/strong>: Ata ishin b\u00ebr\u00eb t\u00eb vet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm p\u00ebr rolin q\u00eb luanin, i cili megjithat\u00eb i k\u00ebnaqte ata – n\u00eb t\u00eb dy aspektet, dometh\u00ebn\u00eb ishte i leht\u00eb dhe i k\u00ebnaqte ata seksualisht – nd\u00ebrsa tani ata duhet t\u00eb shqet\u00ebsohen p\u00ebr t\u00eb k\u00ebnaqur gruan e k\u00ebshtu nuk mund t\u00eb k\u00ebnaqin veten e tyre. Shum\u00eb keq. N\u00ebse ata ndiejn\u00eb dashuri t\u00eb sinqert\u00eb p\u00ebr grat\u00eb me t\u00eb cilat jan\u00eb, n\u00ebse jan\u00eb t\u00eb sinqert\u00eb me veten dhe me partner\u00ebt e tyre, ata automatikisht do t\u00eb mendonin t\u00eb k\u00ebnaqnin edhe ato edhe veten. Tani ata jan\u00eb t\u00eb shqet\u00ebsuar n\u00ebse shihen si seksist n\u00ebse nuk e k\u00ebnaqin gruan, k\u00ebshtu q\u00eb nuk nd\u00ebrmarrin veprim fare. Por e gjith\u00eb kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb lloj veprimi, apo jo? Burra t\u00eb till\u00eb jan\u00eb t\u00eb paaft\u00eb p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb kontradikt\u00ebs q\u00eb e jetojn\u00eb. \u00cbsht\u00eb i pafat ky grup burrash, q\u00eb t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn jan\u00eb t\u00eb vet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm p\u00ebr seksizmin dhe vuajn\u00eb m\u00eb shum\u00eb nga l\u00ebvizja e grave. Nd\u00ebrsa shumica d\u00ebrrmuese e burrave p\u00ebrfitojn\u00eb prej saj, duke e b\u00ebr\u00eb jet\u00ebn m\u00eb t\u00eb pa-tolerueshme p\u00ebr grat\u00eb…<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi:<\/strong> P\u00ebrfitojn\u00eb?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> Pak koh\u00eb m\u00eb par\u00eb po flisnim se si L\u00c7G ka ndihmuar grat\u00eb t\u00eb krijojn\u00eb mot\u00ebrzim, af\u00ebrsi p\u00ebr nj\u00ebra-tjetr\u00ebn, etj. Kjo mund t\u00eb ket\u00eb krijuar p\u00ebrshtypjen se un\u00eb mendoj se grat\u00eb tani jan\u00eb m\u00eb mir\u00eb. Ato nuk jan\u00eb m\u00eb mir\u00eb. Lufta sapo ka filluar dhe n\u00eb fazat e hershme e b\u00ebn jet\u00ebn shum\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebshtir\u00eb. P\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb publicitetit, fjala “\u00e7lirim” \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb maj\u00eb t\u00eb gjuh\u00ebs s\u00eb \u00e7do burri, pavar\u00ebsisht n\u00ebse \u00ebsht\u00eb i vet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm p\u00ebr shtypjen seksuale t\u00eb grave apo jo. Tani q\u00ebndrimi i p\u00ebrgjithsh\u00ebm i burrave \u00ebsht\u00eb se “mir\u00eb, jeni \u00e7liruar. Tani le t\u00eb shkojm\u00eb n\u00eb shtrat \u201d. Me fjal\u00eb t\u00eb tjera, burrat tani jan\u00eb shum\u00eb m\u00eb agresiv\u00eb, vulgar\u00eb e t\u00eb dhunsh\u00ebm. N\u00eb rinin\u00eb time mund t\u00eb sh\u00ebtisnim n\u00eb Montparnasse ose t\u00eb uleshim n\u00eb kafene pa u ngacmuar. Merrnim buz\u00ebqeshje, shikime, v\u00ebshtrime, etj. Por tani \u00ebsht\u00eb e pamundur q\u00eb nj\u00eb grua t\u00eb ulet vet\u00ebm n\u00eb nj\u00eb kafene e t\u00eb lexoj\u00eb nj\u00eb lib\u00ebr. Dhe n\u00ebse ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb e vendosur kur burrat e ngacmojn\u00eb, v\u00ebrejtjet e tyre e cil\u00ebsojn\u00eb at\u00eb shpesh si salope [kurv\u00eb] ose putain [lavire]. Tani ka shum\u00eb m\u00eb shum\u00eb p\u00ebrdhunime. N\u00eb p\u00ebrgjith\u00ebsi, agresiviteti dhe armiq\u00ebsia e burrave \u00ebsht\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb aq e zakonshme sa asnj\u00eb grua nuk ndihet e qet\u00eb n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb qytet e n\u00eb asnj\u00eb qytet tjet\u00ebr n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb. Kjo nuk vie n\u00eb shprehje n\u00ebse grat\u00eb q\u00ebndrojn\u00eb n\u00eb sht\u00ebpi. Dhe kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb ajo q\u00eb q\u00ebndron pas k\u00ebtij agresiviteti mashkullor: k\u00ebrc\u00ebnimi q\u00eb, n\u00eb syt\u00eb e burrave, \u00e7lirimi i grave ka sjell\u00eb pasigurin\u00eb e tyre, prandaj zem\u00ebrimi i burrave ka b\u00ebr\u00eb q\u00eb ata tani t\u00eb sillen sikur vet\u00ebm grat\u00eb q\u00eb q\u00ebndrojn\u00eb n\u00eb sht\u00ebpi jan\u00eb “t\u00eb past\u00ebrta” nd\u00ebrsa t\u00eb tjerat jan\u00eb sh\u00ebnjestra t\u00eb lehta. Kur grat\u00eb tregojn\u00eb se nuk jan\u00eb sh\u00ebnjestra aq t\u00eb lehta, burrat sfidohen n\u00eb nivel personal. Ideja e tyre \u00ebsht\u00eb t\u00eb “marrin” gruan.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi:<\/strong> \u00c7far\u00eb ka ndodhur me mitin, t\u00eb cilin \u00e7do burr\u00eb francez e mb\u00ebshteti, por q\u00eb sigurisht nuk ishte kurr\u00eb i v\u00ebrtet\u00eb, se dashuria \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb art dhe se ai ishte artisti m\u00eb i mir\u00eb nga t\u00eb gjith\u00eb?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> Me p\u00ebrjashtim t\u00eb disa shtresave parazitare shum\u00eb t\u00eb pasura t\u00eb shoq\u00ebris\u00eb, miti ka vdekur. Francez\u00ebt tani sillen si burra amerikan\u00eb ose italian\u00eb: ata thjesht duan “t\u00eb sh\u00ebnojn\u00eb”. P\u00ebrve\u00e7 nj\u00eb numri t\u00eb vog\u00ebl t\u00eb burrave q\u00eb p\u00ebrpiqen t\u00eb p\u00ebrballen me seksizmin e tyre, shumica mbajn\u00eb q\u00ebndrimin q\u00eb sa m\u00eb e lir\u00eb t\u00eb jet\u00eb nj\u00eb grua dhe sa m\u00eb shum\u00eb ajo p\u00ebrpiqet p\u00ebr aspektin material dhe karrier\u00ebn e saj, n\u00eb bot\u00ebn e tyre, n\u00eb bot\u00ebn e burrit, aq m\u00eb e leht\u00eb duhet t\u00eb jet\u00eb ajo p\u00ebr t\u00eb shkuar n\u00eb shtrat me ta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi:<\/strong> Biseda p\u00ebr liri m\u00eb t\u00eb madhe p\u00ebr grat\u00eb m\u00eb \u00e7udit. N\u00eb shoq\u00ebrin\u00eb ton\u00eb, liria arrihet me para dhe pushtet. A kan\u00eb m\u00eb shum\u00eb pushtet grat\u00eb sot, pas gati nj\u00eb dekade t\u00eb l\u00ebvizjes s\u00eb grave?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> N\u00eb kuptimin n\u00eb t\u00eb cilin ju po pyesni, jo. Grat\u00eb intelektuale, grat\u00eb e reja q\u00eb jan\u00eb t\u00eb gatshme t\u00eb rrezikojn\u00eb margjinalizimin, bijat e t\u00eb pasurve kur jan\u00eb t\u00eb gatshme dhe t\u00eb afta t\u00eb heqin dor\u00eb nga sistemi i vlerave t\u00eb prind\u00ebrve t\u00eb tyre: k\u00ebto gra jan\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb lira. Pra, p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb arsimimit, stilit t\u00eb jet\u00ebs ose burimeve t\u00eb tyre financiare, grat\u00eb e tilla mund t\u00eb t\u00ebrhiqen nga shoq\u00ebria e ashp\u00ebr konkurruese, t\u00eb jetojn\u00eb n\u00eb vendbanime t\u00eb caktuara dhe t\u00eb zhvillojn\u00eb marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie me gra ose burra t\u00eb tjer\u00eb t\u00eb ngjash\u00ebm, q\u00eb ndajn\u00eb problemet e nj\u00ebjta me to dhe k\u00ebshtu t\u00eb ndihen m\u00eb t\u00eb lira. Me fjal\u00eb t\u00eb tjera, si individ\u00eb, grat\u00eb q\u00eb mund ta p\u00ebrballojn\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb liri, p\u00ebr \u00e7far\u00ebdo arsye, mund ta ken\u00eb at\u00eb. Por si klas\u00eb, grat\u00eb sigurisht q\u00eb nuk jan\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb lira, pik\u00ebrisht sepse si\u00e7 thoni ju, ato nuk kan\u00eb fuqi ekonomike. N\u00eb dit\u00ebt e sotme ka lloj-lloj statistika q\u00eb v\u00ebrtetojn\u00eb se numri i grave avokate, politikane, mjeke, etj. po rritet. Por statistika t\u00eb tilla jan\u00eb mashtruese… Sa gra avokate mund t\u00eb telefonojn\u00eb nj\u00eb gjykat\u00ebs ose zyrtar qeveritar p\u00ebr t\u00eb rregulluar ndonj\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtje ose p\u00ebr t\u00eb k\u00ebrkuar nj\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb? Grat\u00eb e tilla gjithmon\u00eb duhet t\u00eb veprojn\u00eb p\u00ebrmes burrave ekuivalent\u00eb n\u00eb detyr\u00eb. Gra mjeke? Sa jan\u00eb kirurge, drejtore t\u00eb spitaleve? Gra n\u00eb qeveri? Po, ca sa p\u00ebr simbolik\u00eb. N\u00eb Franc\u00eb kemi dy. Nj\u00ebra, serioze e pun\u00ebtore, Simone Veil e cila \u00ebsht\u00eb Ministre e Sh\u00ebndet\u00ebsis\u00eb. Tjetra, Fran\u00e7oise Giroud e cila \u00ebsht\u00eb ministrja q\u00eb ka p\u00ebr detyr\u00eb t\u00eb merret me grat\u00eb. Kjo e fundit \u00ebsht\u00eb kukull q\u00eb synon t\u00eb fashis\u00eb nevojat e grave borgjeze p\u00ebr integrimin e tyre n\u00eb sistem. Por sa gra kontrollojn\u00eb ndarjet buxhetore t\u00eb Senatit? Sa gra kontrollojn\u00eb politik\u00ebn editoriale t\u00eb gazetave? Sa jan\u00eb gjyqtare? Sa jan\u00eb presidente t\u00eb bankave t\u00eb afta p\u00ebr t\u00eb financuar nd\u00ebrmarrjet? Vet\u00ebm sepse ka shum\u00eb m\u00eb tep\u00ebr gra n\u00eb pozicione t\u00eb nivelit t\u00eb mes\u00ebm, si\u00e7 thon\u00eb gazetar\u00ebt, n\u00eb asnj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb nuk do t\u00eb thot\u00eb se ato kan\u00eb pushtet. Madje edhe ato gra n\u00eb pozicione t\u00eb mesme, q\u00eb t\u00eb ken\u00eb sukses duhet t\u00eb luajn\u00eb loj\u00ebn e burrave. Kjo nuk do t\u00eb thot\u00eb q\u00eb nuk besoj se grat\u00eb nuk kan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb p\u00ebrparim n\u00eb luft\u00ebn e tyre. Por progresi \u00ebsht\u00eb rezultat i veprimit masiv. Konsiderojeni ligjin e ri t\u00eb abortit t\u00eb propozuar nga Simone Veil. Pavar\u00ebsisht nga fakti q\u00eb abortet nuk do t\u00eb mbulohen nga programi komb\u00ebtar sh\u00ebndet\u00ebsor dhe k\u00ebshtu do t\u00eb jen\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb qassh\u00ebm p\u00ebr t\u00eb pasurit sesa p\u00ebr t\u00eb varfrit, prap se prap ligji \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb hap i madh p\u00ebrpara. Me gjith\u00eb mundin q\u00eb Simone Veil luftoi p\u00ebr nj\u00eb ligj t\u00eb till\u00eb, arsyeja q\u00eb ajo mund ta ngriste si \u00e7\u00ebshtje n\u00eb rend t\u00eb par\u00eb, \u00ebsht\u00eb sepse mij\u00ebra gra kan\u00eb krijuar trazira n\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb Franc\u00ebn p\u00ebr nj\u00eb ligj t\u00eb till\u00eb, sepse mij\u00ebra gra kan\u00eb pohuar publikisht se kan\u00eb kryer aborte (duke detyruar qeverin\u00eb q\u00eb ose t’i ndjek\u00eb ato ligj\u00ebrisht ose t\u00eb ndryshoj\u00eb ligjin), sepse qindra mjek\u00eb dhe mami kan\u00eb rrezikuar ndjekje penale kur pranuan se kan\u00eb kryer aborte, sepse disa nga ta u gjykuan dhe luftuan p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtje n\u00eb gjykata, etj. Ajo q\u00eb un\u00eb po them \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb p\u00ebrmes veprimeve masive grat\u00eb mund t\u00eb ken\u00eb fuqi. Sa m\u00eb shum\u00eb gra t\u00eb nd\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsohen p\u00ebr nevoj\u00ebn e nj\u00eb veprimi t\u00eb till\u00eb masiv, aq m\u00eb shum\u00eb p\u00ebrparim do t\u00eb arrihet. Dhe p\u00ebr t’u kthyer te gruaja q\u00eb ka mund\u00ebsi t\u00eb k\u00ebrkoj\u00eb \u00e7lirimin individual, sa m\u00eb shum\u00eb q\u00eb ajo mund t\u00eb ndikoj\u00eb tek miqt\u00eb dhe motrat e saj, aq m\u00eb shum\u00eb do t\u00eb p\u00ebrhapet vet\u00ebdija, e cila nga ana tjet\u00ebr, kur zhg\u00ebnjehet nga sistemi, do t\u00eb stimuloj\u00eb veprim masiv. Sigurisht q\u00eb sa m\u00eb shum\u00eb q\u00eb p\u00ebrhapet vet\u00ebdija, aq m\u00eb shum\u00eb burra do t\u00eb jen\u00eb agresiv\u00eb dhe t\u00eb dhunsh\u00ebm. Por sa m\u00eb shum\u00eb burra t\u00eb jen\u00eb agresiv\u00eb, aq m\u00eb shum\u00eb gra do t\u00eb ken\u00eb nevoj\u00eb p\u00ebr gra t\u00eb tjera p\u00ebr t\u00eb luftuar, k\u00ebshtu nevoja p\u00ebr veprim masiv do t\u00eb jet\u00eb e qart\u00eb. Shumica e pun\u00ebtor\u00ebve t\u00eb bot\u00ebs kapitaliste sot jan\u00eb t\u00eb vet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm p\u00ebr luft\u00ebn e klasave, pavar\u00ebsisht n\u00ebse ata e quajn\u00eb veten marksist\u00eb apo jo, madje pavar\u00ebsisht n\u00ebse ata kan\u00eb d\u00ebgjuar ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb p\u00ebr Marksin. Kjo duhet t\u00eb ndodh\u00eb edhe n\u00eb luft\u00ebn e seksit. K\u00ebshtu do t\u00eb ndodh\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi:<\/strong> Ju vitin e kaluar m\u00eb that\u00eb se po mendonit t\u00eb shkruani nj\u00eb lib\u00ebr tjet\u00ebr p\u00ebr grat\u00eb, nj\u00eb lloj vazhdimi i Seksit t\u00eb Dyt\u00eb. A jeni duke e shkruar?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> Jo. N\u00eb radh\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb, nj\u00eb pun\u00eb e till\u00eb do t\u00eb duhej t\u00eb ishte nj\u00eb p\u00ebrpjekje kolektive. M\u00eb pas ajo p\u00ebrpjekje m\u00eb par\u00eb duhet t\u00eb rr\u00ebnjoset n\u00eb praktik\u00eb sesa n\u00eb teori. Seksi i Dyt\u00eb u fokusua n\u00eb teori. Kjo nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb e vlefshme. Vet\u00ebm n\u00eb praktik\u00eb mund t\u00eb shihet se si nd\u00ebrthuren lufta e klasave dhe lufta e seksit, ose t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn se si ato mund t\u00eb artikulohen. Por kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrteta p\u00ebr t\u00eb gjitha betejat: ne duhet ta nxjerrim teorin\u00eb ton\u00eb nga praktika, jo e kund\u00ebrta. Ajo q\u00eb n\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb e nevojshme \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb nj\u00eb grup i t\u00ebr\u00eb grash, nga t\u00eb gjitha vendet, t\u00eb mbledhin p\u00ebrvojat e tyre dhe q\u00eb ne m\u00eb pas t\u00eb nxjerrim modelet me t\u00eb cilat p\u00ebrballen grat\u00eb kudo nga p\u00ebrvojat e tilla. P\u00ebr m\u00eb tep\u00ebr, nj\u00eb informacion i till\u00eb duhet t\u00eb grumbullohet nga t\u00eb gjitha klasat dhe kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb dyfish m\u00eb e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb. Grat\u00eb q\u00eb luftojn\u00eb sot luft\u00ebn p\u00ebr \u00e7lirim jan\u00eb kryesisht borgjeze intelektuale; n\u00eb p\u00ebrgjith\u00ebsi, grat\u00eb e pun\u00ebtor\u00ebve dhe madje edhe pun\u00ebtoret mbeten fort t\u00eb lidhura me sistemin e vlerave t\u00eb klas\u00ebs s\u00eb mesme t\u00eb shoq\u00ebris\u00eb. P\u00ebrpiquni, p\u00ebr shembull, t\u00eb flisni me pun\u00ebtoret gra p\u00ebr t\u00eb drejtat e prostitutave dhe respektin q\u00eb u takon atyre. Ky koncept n\u00eb vete \u00ebsht\u00eb trondit\u00ebs p\u00ebr shumic\u00ebn e grave pun\u00ebtore. Rritja e nd\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsimit t\u00eb grave pun\u00ebtore \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb proces shum\u00eb i ngadalt\u00eb q\u00eb k\u00ebrkon shum\u00eb ndjeshm\u00ebri. Un\u00eb e di se ka ekstremist\u00eb t\u00eb L\u00c7G q\u00eb po p\u00ebrpiqen t\u00eb b\u00ebjn\u00eb q\u00eb grat\u00eb e pun\u00ebtor\u00ebve t\u00eb rebelohen kund\u00ebr burrave t\u00eb tyre si burra shtyp\u00ebs. Un\u00eb mendoj se kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb gabim. Gruaja e nj\u00eb pun\u00ebtori, t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn k\u00ebtu n\u00eb Franc\u00eb, do t\u00eb p\u00ebrgjigjet se, \u201carmiku im nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb burri im por shefi im”. P\u00ebrgjigje kjo q\u00eb vjen edhe n\u00ebse asaj i duhet t\u00eb laj\u00eb \u00e7orapet e burrit t\u00eb saj dhe t\u2019i b\u00ebj\u00eb atij sup\u00ebn edhe pasi q\u00eb ajo ka punuar nj\u00eb dit\u00eb t\u00eb t\u00ebr\u00eb n\u00eb ndonj\u00eb fabrik\u00eb. E nj\u00ebjta gj\u00eb ndodhi edhe n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb, ku grat\u00eb e zeza nuk pranuan t\u00eb d\u00ebgjonin misionaret e l\u00ebvizjes \u00e7lirimtare t\u00eb grave p\u00ebr arsyen se ato ishin t\u00eb bardha. K\u00ebto gra t\u00eb zeza mbet\u00ebn mb\u00ebshtet\u00ebse t\u00eb burrave t\u00eb tyre t\u00eb pavar\u00ebsisht shfryt\u00ebzimit, thjesht sepse personat q\u00eb p\u00ebrpiqeshin t’i vinin n\u00eb dijeni t\u00eb shfryt\u00ebzimit ishin t\u00eb bardha. Megjithat\u00eb, gradualisht, nj\u00eb feministe borgjeze mund t\u00eb ndikoj\u00eb gruan e nj\u00eb pun\u00ebtori, nj\u00ebjt\u00eb sikur sot n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb ka disa gra t\u00eb zeza – shum\u00eb pak, ja u them un\u00eb – q\u00eb thon\u00eb, “jo, ne nuk duam t’i n\u00ebnshtrohemi shtypjes s\u00eb burrave tan\u00eb me pretekstin se jan\u00eb t\u00eb zinj dhe se duhet t\u00eb luftojm\u00eb s\u00eb bashku me ta kund\u00ebr t\u00eb bardh\u00ebve; jo, kjo nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb arsye q\u00eb burrat tan\u00eb t\u00eb na shtypin, vet\u00ebm sepse ata jan\u00eb burrat tan\u00eb t\u00eb zi”.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sidoqoft\u00eb, n\u00eb disa m\u00ebnyra shum\u00eb konkrete, lufta e klasave inkurajon dhe zhvillon luft\u00ebn e seksit. P\u00ebr shembull, gjat\u00eb viteve t\u00eb fundit ka pasur shum\u00eb greva k\u00ebtu n\u00eb Franc\u00eb ku pun\u00ebtor\u00ebt ishin pothuajse t\u00eb gjitha gra. E kam fjal\u00ebn p\u00ebr grev\u00ebn e tekstilit n\u00eb Troyes, n\u00eb Veri, ose n\u00eb Galerit\u00eb Nouvelles n\u00eb Thionville ose grev\u00ebn e famshme n\u00eb Lip. N\u00eb secilin rast, grat\u00eb pun\u00ebtore jo vet\u00ebm q\u00eb fituan nj\u00eb vet\u00ebdije t\u00eb re por fituan edhe nj\u00eb besim t\u00eb ri ose m\u00eb t\u00eb fort\u00eb n\u00eb fuqin\u00eb e tyre dhe ky besim prishi sistemin mashkullor me t\u00eb cilin p\u00ebrballeshin n\u00eb sht\u00ebpit\u00eb e tyre. N\u00eb Lip, p\u00ebr shembull, grat\u00eb uzurpuan pun\u00ebtorin\u00eb dhe refuzuan ta evakuojn\u00eb at\u00eb pavar\u00ebsisht k\u00ebrc\u00ebnimeve nga policia q\u00eb ata do t\u00eb p\u00ebrdornin forc\u00ebn p\u00ebr t’i nxjerr\u00eb ato jasht\u00eb. N\u00eb fillim, burrat e pun\u00ebtoreve ishin shum\u00eb krenar\u00eb p\u00ebr grat\u00eb e tyre luftarake. Burrat u soll\u00ebn atyre ushqim, u ndihmuan n\u00eb realizimin e pankartave t\u00eb protestave, etj. Por kur grat\u00eb vendos\u00ebn t\u00eb ishin plot\u00ebsisht t\u00eb barabarta me ata pak burra q\u00eb gjithashtu punonin n\u00eb Lip dhe q\u00eb ishin poashtu n\u00eb grev\u00eb, at\u00ebher\u00eb lind\u00ebn problemet. Grevist\u00ebt e Lipit vendos\u00ebn t\u00eb organizoheshin me nd\u00ebrrime p\u00ebr t\u00eb mbrojtur fabrik\u00ebn nga pushtimi i policis\u00eb. Kjo n\u00ebnkuptonte edhe nd\u00ebrrimin e nat\u00ebs. Oh, tani, papritmas, burrat e grave n\u00eb grev\u00eb ishin t\u00eb m\u00ebrzitur. “Ju mund t\u00eb godisni dhe t\u00eb trazoni gjith\u00e7ka q\u00eb d\u00ebshironi”, than\u00eb ata. \u201cPor vet\u00ebm dit\u00ebn, jo nat\u00ebn.\u201d \u201cDoni t\u00eb b\u00ebni roje? Jo! Duke fjetur s\u00eb bashku n\u00eb dhoma t\u00eb p\u00ebrbashk\u00ebta me nd\u00ebrrime? Jo! \u201d Natyrisht, grat\u00eb pun\u00ebtore rezistuan. Ato kishin luftuar p\u00ebr barazi dhe nuk do t\u00eb hiqnin dor\u00eb tani. K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb ato u angazhuan p\u00ebr nj\u00eb luft\u00eb t\u00eb dyfisht\u00eb: nga nj\u00ebra an\u00eb luft\u00ebn e klasave kund\u00ebr shefave t\u00eb Lipit, policin\u00eb, qeverin\u00eb, etj., dhe nga ana tjet\u00ebr luft\u00ebn e seksit kund\u00ebr burrave t\u00eb tyre. Organizator\u00ebt e sindikat\u00ebs n\u00eb Lip raportuan se pas grev\u00ebs grat\u00eb ishin transformuar plot\u00ebsisht, duke th\u00ebn\u00eb se \u201cnj\u00eb gj\u00eb q\u00eb m\u00ebsuam nga e gjith\u00eb kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb se kurr\u00eb m\u00eb nuk do ta lejojm\u00eb burrat tan\u00eb t\u00eb luajn\u00eb shefin n\u00eb sht\u00ebpi. Tani jemi kund\u00ebr t\u00eb gjith\u00eb shefave\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi:<\/strong> A ndryshoi vet\u00ebdija juaj p\u00ebr pleq\u00ebrin\u00eb p\u00ebrderisa keni shkruar p\u00ebr t\u00eb, ashtu si\u00e7 ndryshoi vet\u00ebdija e t\u00eb qenit grua gjat\u00eb shkrimit t\u00eb Seksit t\u00eb Dyt\u00eb?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> Realisht jo. Zbulova shum\u00eb gj\u00ebra; m\u00ebsova shum\u00eb p\u00ebr njer\u00ebzit e moshuar. Por n\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb nuk fitova nj\u00eb vet\u00ebdije t\u00eb re sepse ishte kuptimi q\u00eb isha e vjet\u00ebr q\u00eb m\u00eb b\u00ebri t\u00eb nd\u00ebrmarr librin n\u00eb radh\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb. Por tani un\u00eb mund t\u00eb bashk\u00ebndjej\u00eb me t\u00eb vjetr\u00ebn shum\u00eb m\u00eb mir\u00eb se m\u00eb par\u00eb. Dikur isha shum\u00eb m\u00eb e ashp\u00ebr. Tani e kuptoj q\u00eb kur nj\u00eb person i moshuar \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb i ndjesh\u00ebm, shum\u00eb egoist, ai vet\u00ebm po vet\u00ebmbrohet. Por e shihni, nj\u00eb grua mund t\u00eb kaloj\u00eb gjith\u00eb jet\u00ebn duke refuzuar t\u00eb p\u00ebrballet me faktin se ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb thelb\u00ebsisht ndryshe nga burrat, n\u00eb vlera, p\u00ebrvoj\u00eb dhe qasje jet\u00ebsore. Por \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb t\u00eb shmang\u00ebsh nd\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsimin se po plakesh. Vjen nj\u00eb koh\u00eb kur thjesht e dini q\u00eb duhet t\u00eb vendosni limite ose q\u00eb i keni kaluar limitet. Un\u00eb e di q\u00eb sot kurr\u00eb nuk do t\u00eb jem n\u00eb gjendje t\u00eb endem n\u00ebp\u00ebr kodra n\u00eb k\u00ebmb\u00eb, se nuk do t\u00eb ngas bi\u00e7iklet\u00eb kurr\u00eb m\u00eb, se kurr\u00eb m\u00eb nuk do t\u00eb kem marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie me nj\u00eb burr\u00eb. Un\u00eb isha shum\u00eb e frik\u00ebsuar ose t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn shum\u00eb e shqet\u00ebsuar p\u00ebr plakjen edhe para se ta arrija at\u00eb. Pastaj, kur erdhi, kur e dija q\u00eb e kisha kaluar limitin ishte shum\u00eb m\u00eb leht\u00eb sesa prisja. Sigurisht, ju duhet t\u00eb ndaloni s\u00eb shikuari prapa. Por t\u00eb jetuarit nga dita n\u00eb dit\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb m\u00eb e leht\u00eb sesa mendoja. Por m\u00ebsova se e kisha kaluar at\u00eb limit pavar\u00ebsisht nga hulumtimi im p\u00ebr librin tim mbi pleq\u00ebrin\u00eb. Puna p\u00ebr librin thjesht m\u00eb m\u00ebsoi t\u00eb kuptoj t\u00eb vjetr\u00ebn dhe t\u00eb jem m\u00eb tolerante.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi:<\/strong> \u00c7far\u00eb po punoni tani?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> Faktikisht, asgj\u00eb. Po ndihmoj n\u00eb nj\u00eb skenar, n\u00eb lidhje me pleq\u00ebrin\u00eb, p\u00ebr nj\u00eb regjisor suedez. Un\u00eb do t\u00eb ndihmoj Sartre-n me projektin e tij televiziv. Ju e dini q\u00eb ai ka n\u00ebnshkruar nj\u00eb kontrat\u00eb me televizionin komb\u00ebtar p\u00ebr t\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb dhjet\u00eb shfaqje nj\u00eb or\u00ebshe, q\u00eb do fillojn\u00eb n\u00eb tetor dhe kan\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebjn\u00eb me shtat\u00ebdhjet\u00eb e pes\u00eb vitet e k\u00ebtij shekulli dhe lidhjen e tij me ngjarjet kryesore gjat\u00eb k\u00ebsaj kohe. Por nuk kam nd\u00ebrmend t\u00eb nd\u00ebrmarr\u00eb ndonj\u00eb projekt t\u00eb ve\u00e7ant\u00eb. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb di\u00e7ka e re p\u00ebr mua. Dikur kisha n\u00eb mendjen time lloj-lloj projekti edhe p\u00ebrgjat\u00eb koh\u00ebs kur isha duke punuar n\u00eb ndonj\u00eb lib\u00ebr specifik.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi:<\/strong> Ju keni shkruar q\u00eb keni pasur nj\u00eb jet\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb dhe nuk pendoheni p\u00ebr asgj\u00eb. A jeni n\u00eb dijeni se ka shum\u00eb \u00e7ifte q\u00eb e shikojn\u00eb jet\u00ebn tuaj me Sartre-n si model, ve\u00e7an\u00ebrisht n\u00eb kuptimin q\u00eb nuk ishit xheloz p\u00ebr nj\u00ebri-tjetrin dhe q\u00eb kishit at\u00eb q\u00eb quhet nj\u00eb marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie e hapur dhe se funksionoi p\u00ebr dyzet e pes\u00eb vjet?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> \u00cbsht\u00eb qesharake t\u00eb na p\u00ebrdor\u00ebsh neve si model. Njer\u00ebzit duhet t\u00eb eksplorojn\u00eb vullnetet e tyre, strukturat e tyre. Un\u00eb dhe Sartre-n ishim shum\u00eb me fat, por edhe prejardhja jon\u00eb ishte shum\u00eb e ve\u00e7ant\u00eb, shum\u00eb e jasht\u00ebzakonshme. Ne takuam nj\u00ebri-tjetrin kur ishim shum\u00eb t\u00eb rinj. Ai ishte 23 vje\u00e7; Un\u00eb isha 20. Ne nuk ishim akoma t\u00eb pjekur, megjith\u00ebse asokohe ishim form\u00ebsuar si intelektual\u00eb me motive t\u00eb ngjashme. P\u00ebr t\u00eb dyt\u00eb, literatura e kishte z\u00ebvend\u00ebsuar fen\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi:<\/strong> Megjithat\u00eb mund t\u00eb kishit qen\u00eb kund\u00ebrshtar\u00eb, rival\u00eb …<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> E v\u00ebrtet\u00eb, personalitete t\u00eb ngjashme me ambicie t\u00eb ngjashme shpesh ndihen si rival\u00eb. Por kishim edhe di\u00e7ka tjet\u00ebr t\u00eb p\u00ebrbashk\u00ebt: ishim strukturuar n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb t\u00eb ngjashme n\u00eb rinin\u00eb ton\u00eb. F\u00ebmij\u00ebrit\u00eb tona ishin shum\u00eb solide, shum\u00eb t\u00eb sigurta. Kjo do t\u00eb thoshte q\u00eb asnj\u00ebri prej nesh nuk duhej t’i v\u00ebrtetonte di\u00e7ka vetes ose tjetrit. Ne ishim t\u00eb sigurt n\u00eb veten ton\u00eb. Ishte sikur gjith\u00e7ka ishte e paracaktuar q\u00eb n\u00eb fillim. Prind\u00ebrit e mi vepruan sikur asgj\u00eb n\u00eb univers nuk mund t\u00eb ndryshonte rrjedh\u00ebn normale t\u00eb jet\u00ebs sime, e cila do t\u00eb sillte nj\u00eb intelektuale t\u00eb bukur paksa borgjeze. Gjyshi i Sartre-s, i cili e rriti at\u00eb – ju e dini q\u00eb babai i tij vdiq kur ai ishte ende foshnj\u00eb – sillej n\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn m\u00ebnyr\u00eb, absolutisht i bindur se Sartre do t\u00eb rritet p\u00ebr t’u b\u00ebr\u00eb profesor. Dhe k\u00ebshtu ndodhi. K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb edhe kur ndodh\u00ebn kriza, t\u00eb tilla si kur n\u00ebna e Sartre-s u martua p\u00ebrs\u00ebri kur ai ishte 12-13 vje\u00e7, ose t\u00eb tilla si kur un\u00eb isha 14-15 vje\u00e7 dhe m\u00ebsova se babai im nuk m\u00eb donte m\u00eb ashtu si\u00e7 e prisja un\u00eb, stabiliteti i f\u00ebmij\u00ebris\u00eb son\u00eb b\u00ebri q\u00eb ne t\u2019i jasht\u00ebsojm\u00eb k\u00ebto kriza. Ishin ata q\u00eb ndryshuan, jo ne. Ne ishim shum\u00eb t\u00eb strukturuar p\u00ebr tu ndjer\u00eb t\u00eb pasigurt. P\u00ebrve\u00e7 k\u00ebsaj, pavar\u00ebsisht dallimeve t\u00eb vogla, ne ishim n\u00eb p\u00ebrputhje me modelin q\u00eb prind\u00ebrit tan\u00eb kishin vendosur p\u00ebr neve. Ata donin q\u00eb ne t\u00eb ishim intelektual\u00eb, t\u00eb lexonim, t\u00eb studionim, t\u00eb m\u00ebsonim dhe ne ram\u00eb dakord dhe e b\u00ebm\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb. K\u00ebshtu, kur Sartre dhe un\u00eb u takuam jo vet\u00ebm sfondi yn\u00eb u shkri, por edhe q\u00ebndrueshm\u00ebria jon\u00eb, bindja jon\u00eb individuale se ne ishim ata q\u00eb ishim modeluar p\u00ebr t\u00eb qen\u00eb. N\u00eb at\u00eb kuad\u00ebr nuk mund t\u00eb b\u00ebheshim rival\u00eb. Pastaj, nd\u00ebrsa marr\u00ebdh\u00ebniet midis Sartre-s dhe meje u thelluan, u binda se isha e paz\u00ebvend\u00ebsueshme n\u00eb jet\u00ebn e tij dhe ai n\u00eb jet\u00ebn time. Me fjal\u00eb t\u00eb tjera, ne ishim plot\u00ebsisht t\u00eb sigurt duke ditur se marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnia jon\u00eb ishte plot\u00ebsisht solide, p\u00ebrs\u00ebri e paracaktuar, megjith\u00ebse asokohe ne do qeshnim me at\u00eb fjal\u00eb. Kur keni nj\u00eb siguri t\u00eb till\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb e leht\u00eb t\u00eb mos jesh xheloz. Por n\u00ebse do t\u00eb kisha menduar q\u00eb nj\u00eb grua tjet\u00ebr luante t\u00eb nj\u00ebjtin rol si un\u00eb n\u00eb jet\u00ebn e Sartre-s, natyrisht se do t\u00eb isha xheloze.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi:<\/strong> Si e mendoni pjes\u00ebn tjet\u00ebr t\u00eb jet\u00ebs tuaj?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> Nuk e mendoj fare. Them se s\u00eb shpejti do t\u00eb filloj t\u00eb shkruaj di\u00e7ka p\u00ebrs\u00ebri, se do t\u00eb kthehem n\u00eb pun\u00eb, por nuk kam ende ide se \u00e7far\u00eb do t\u00eb b\u00ebj. Un\u00eb e di q\u00eb un\u00eb do t\u00eb vazhdoj t\u00eb punoj me grat\u00eb, brenda grupeve feministe, brenda Lidhjes s\u00eb Grave. Do t\u00eb vazhdoj t\u00eb ushtroj aktiviz\u00ebm n\u00eb nj\u00eb far\u00eb m\u00ebnyre, n\u00eb \u00e7far\u00ebdo m\u00ebnyre q\u00eb mundem, brenda – le ta quajm\u00eb at\u00eb – luft\u00ebs revolucionare. Dhe e di q\u00eb do t\u00eb q\u00ebndroj me Sartre-n derisa nj\u00ebri prej nesh t\u00eb vdes\u00eb. Por, ai tani \u00ebsht\u00eb 70 vje\u00e7 dhe un\u00eb 67.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gerassi:<\/strong> A jeni optimiste? A mendoni se do t\u00eb ndodhin ndryshimet p\u00ebr t\u00eb cilat keni luftuar?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Beauvoir:<\/strong> Nuk e di. Jo p\u00ebrgjat\u00eb jet\u00ebs time gjithsesi. Ndoshta pas kat\u00ebr gjeneratave. Nuk jam e sigurt p\u00ebr revolucionin. Por ndryshimet p\u00ebr t\u00eb cilat grat\u00eb po luftojn\u00eb, po, p\u00ebr ato jam i sigurt, n\u00eb planin afatgjat\u00eb grat\u00eb do t\u00eb fitojn\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

E p\u00ebrktheu\u00a0Riola Morina<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Tekstin origjinal mund ta gjeni n\u00eb:\u00a0https:\/\/www.marxists.org\/reference\/subject\/ethics\/de-beauvoir\/1976\/interview.htm<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"featured_media":1983,"template":"","class_list":["post-1982","lexo-post","type-lexo-post","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"\nIntervist\u00eb e Simone De Beauvoir: \u201cSeksi i Dyt\u00eb\u201d 25 vite m\u00eb von\u00eb - QIKA<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/qika.org\/lexime\/interviste-e-simone-de-beauvoir-seksi-i-dyte-25-vite-me-vone\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Intervist\u00eb e Simone De Beauvoir: \u201cSeksi i Dyt\u00eb\u201d 25 vite m\u00eb von\u00eb - QIKA\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Gerassi: Kan\u00eb kaluar rreth 25 vite q\u00eb kur \u201cSeksi i dyt\u00eb\u201d \u00ebsht\u00eb botuar. 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